As anyone who has had a shorthair and a lab knows, they are completely different dogs and it is such a joy to be able to work with both of them. Our dams come from the same line of dogs Eddie hunted with throughout the 80's. We run them everyday and try to take them to new places as much as possible. We start them on pigeons but never hunt them on liberated birds. We are looking forward to hunting them on a lot of grouse, pheasant and quail this fall.